In 2009 I joined a website called ADISC. It purports itself to be an AB/DL forum/support group. I was entirely unimpressed; despite having a large number of members, the forums I read seemed to be dominated by a small number of snarky, petty Internet Trolls.
I mentioned ADISC in my blog entry on survey results.
Today I got an email from an AB, Trav, who had just recently taken my survey and read the posts that go along with it. He told me that he, too, had tried ADISC - but had quit when the Trolls began picking at each post he left.
Trav told me that "some of the mods are the worst ones!" and I knew exactly what he was talking about. Last year, before I knew the deal with ADISC, I had friend requested someone on another website who had posted that he was a moderator for ADISC. He sent me a message, in response to my request, telling me that he wasn't even sure he'd be around long because ADISC was so much better, "IMHO". I knew right then that I was talking to a Forum Troll, because only Forum Trolls use shit like "IMHO". I withdrew my request, and he left nasty messages on my profile. (He's since posted that he is no longer an ADISC moderator because of some ADISC drama). LOLLERS.
Trav's point in messaging me was to link me to a forum post that he felt illustrates the ills of ADISC. He sent it to me in a second email, titled simply: "The post responses are exactly what ADISC is about."
Want to read it? Click here.
In the post, a user, Skizzybaby - who has apparently been banned since this post was submitted - tells about how he is extremely happy because he has the use of a crib in his bedroom. His post, in fact, is titled "I'm So Happy With My Baby Crib!" lol.
Skizzy goes on to explain that he had relatives visiting from out of town, so his mother purchased a crib from a department store with the intention of returning it.
"2 weeks ago my aunt and uncle came to vist from california, they just had a new baby boy, and were comming to stay with us for 2 days. before they left they told my mom and dad that they needed a crib as they couldnt take one on the airplane, even if it was broken down. So my mom went out and bought a new babycrib, with meesh screens and babyzoo animals all around it, and its babyblue, MY FAVORITE COLOR! she said she would return it to the store after they left, but i went threw her purse and threw away the reciept."
Do you spy the problem yet?
User Zephy did:
"Fine, I'll be the one to say it. You planning on paying your mom back for that? Those aren't free and I'm sure she planned on getting the money back. This is no different than stealing diapers, or than stealing money from your parents to get something. In fact, you even went through her purse to get the receipt, just like people who are addicted to drugs. I don't really see a reason to brag about what you have done."
What a fucking tightass, right?
That, my friends, is an Internet Troll.
The post then goes on for several days, with various ADISC member trolls jumping in on the original poster (OP, in trollspeak) to bash him for his actions, which they compare to - and I am not making this up - a drug addict trying to get his fix, and an ABDL previously arrested for breaking into a stranger's house and stealing/wearing baby diapers.
Skizzy explains that his parents make a combined $700K+/year and won't be hurt by the deception; trolls get even madder, shouting "that's not the point!!"
It goes on from there. Member troll GasshaHuzza (wtf?) chimes in to let Skizzy know it has nothing to do with the money:
"I'm not going to talk for the entire site, maybe not even half of it. But a lot of people have this thing called 'self control.' A lot of TBs wouldn't steal something just so they could indulge in their fetish."
Okay, sure. Skizzy (and several other members) explain that, in a battle of 'self control' vs. crib, crib wins. This makes the trolls even angrier, and hilarity ensues.
Take user Fire2Box, for example:
"That doesn't make it any more right though. I am in agreement with Zep myself that what you did is wrong.. you intentional made it impossible for her to return it only to please yourself. I'm even willing to bet you knew it was wrong from the time you even came up with the idea, but you still went though with it. and saying this doesn't affect us is kind of wrong... it's like saying Deeker's doesn't affect us, or scat videos doesn't affect us.. even though those people make even the good AB/DL's look bad since that's what people could associate with AB/DL/TB's."
Now Skizzy - a kid who saw an opportunity to keep a playpen (see picture) and took it - is making all ABDLs look bad? He's comparable to Deeker?
Stop, thief! The next Deeker?
The drama continues unabated, with even a moderator stepping in to let everyone know that Skizzy's mother is ALSO a thief, and it takes a thief to raise a thief; his mother, remember, was going to return an item to a store she'd had no intention of keeping in the first place!
Lol.
At many different points Skizzy tries to end the argument by saying, point blank, he doesn't want to argue anymore - and attempting to change the subject. Fire2box's response?
"Just because you two don't like hearing other people's opinions, doesn't mean everyone else should be required to shut up just since you don't like it. If Skizzy knew how adisc operates, he should known members have a wide view of ideals, right and wrong and morality. Stealing anything can become controversial. But once again (like his first topic), he made a topic solely to gloat and is now upset that it actually backfired. To me, this is all very childish on his part, but in the bad childish way."
The bad childish way. Someone seem a little jealous?
At this point it becomes obvious that our Troll is not a simple run-of-the-mill troll, but a Stalker Troll - a very serious situation indeed. Skizzy notices it, too:
"firebox im not gloating, im just sharing stuff that happens in my life, and sharing it with people who are interested in the same things. and im not upset i just dont like argueing over something that dosnt affect anyone else but me. damn leave me alone man, you comment everyone of my posts and say something bad or contadicting, just stop its getting old."
It gets old for six or seven more pages before Skizzy posts that he repaid his mother for the cost of the playpen and a moderator, perhaps sensing that the Trolls will never be satisfied, closes the forum for drama.
Sigh... the whole site could probably be closed for "drama".
My problem with ADISC isn't the fact that it allows adults and children to intermingle in one single location for very adult-related conversations - although I admit that is a problem, other sites do that, too.
My problem is that, in the majority of the ADISC forum posts that I've read, Member Trolls dominate the conversation. They are, in essence, nothing more than bullies hiding behind a keyboard. My first foray into the world of ADISC was my last; I posted a response to a post and there were, almost immediately, two responses criticizing my post: one because I had not first posted an "introduction" (I needed to become familiar with how ADISC worked, I was told) and another because my avatar was not in cartoon form. I posted an "introduction" to satisfy my first critic, and let my second critic know I found the cartoon avatar distasteful as it basically lets adults and children talk about sexual stuff with total anonymity. (No response from that person).
In the years since I've seen lots of other troubling, bullying, negative, posts. In fact, in my news alert for ABDL, ADISC is one site that regularly comes up, so I see them often.
I hope that nobody ever explores their ABDL side by going to ADISC, because anyone's first experience with our lifestyle should be a positive one. Reading through the forum post that Trav sent me made me realize how many snarky people our community has - and how they all tend to gather in one place.
"Friends don't let friends ADISC" is the title of my blog entry today. And while I know that 25% of my readers are ADISC members - and I wouldn't ever ask you to stop - I hope that those of you who do venture there are among the more positive influences on the site.
ADISC can't be all bad. It was probably started with good intentions, but slowly, over time, as with most internet forums on any subject, some members begin to see themselves as having an ownership stake, and take to bully-ish, Troll-type behaviors to stake their claim. There has to be some good, right? I just don't spend much time on the site, and haven't seen it yet?
I hope?
Our community gets assailed too much from the outside world to be continuously picking at each other. If someone within our little circle of friends gets a baby crib, don't be so quick to judge how he came by it. If you are the type who simply must judge, throw your stones and then run back into your glass house and shut the fuck up.
Bullies: fuck off!
Internet trolls: fuck you too!
Skizzy: hope you're still enjoying your crib (playpen? Lol) in spite of the jealous, bitter Stalker Trolls on ADISC.
